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Ombudsman Oversight in MUSH Sector

In an effort to be transparent and in light of various tragedies that have occurred, there needs to be an independent investigation process when complaints are made within this sector.

It is now the 21st century and Ontario remains to be the only province where this is not an option.

Submitted by 1 year ago

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  1. We all know thousands have contacted each of the 107 Ontario MPP's demanding Ombudsman oversight of the entire MUSH sector especially for health services and Children's Aid Societies for obvious reasons and nearly your entire OLP membership agrees with us. Why are Bill s being shot dhow and why are your refusing to allow the systemic problem and all these families lives to be turned upside down without any checks and balances? People do not want to hear the only way to solve problems is to spend $100,000 to $300,000 on lawyers.

    1 year ago
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    1. "We all know thousands have contacted each of the 107 Ontario MPP's demanding ombudsman oversight......"

      Thousands? haha You are exaggerating a little bit. That is one of the reasons there is no ombudsman oversight. Many (not all) of your minions are very poor communicators. What do you think an MPP is going to think when they receive numerous emails or letters from your minions that contain several spelling and grammatical errors? Many of these emails and letters include conspiracy theories such as CAS are kidnapping children. These MPPs are going to distance themselves from the issue.

      You were advised to distance yourself and your organizations from the extremists. But you are stubborn and arrogant. That is why you had your own history with CAS. When this bill fails to pass, maybe you will realize it is quality, not quantity.

      1 year ago
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    2. SM99987 I think all of us are sick of your personal attacks on people on here. Making fun of people's intelligence is not going to get you many "brownie" points with anyone, it does not make you look like a very good person. I really hope you, for your and everyone else's around you sake, you discover what your personal issues are that cause you to attack others, and deal with it appropriately. Calling people "minions", "arrogant", "stubborn" and making fun of their intelligence just shows your character. Please get the help you need.

      1 year ago
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    3. Moderator

      SM99987, you need to abide by the community guidelines and make sure all your activity on IdeaScale is constructive and respectful. If you need a refresher of these guidelines, find them here: http://commonground.ideascale.com/a/pages/guidelines

      1 year ago
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    4. you are also basically admitting Neil was threatened to stop supporting this cause.

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  2. It is with the utmost importance that this is needed. Children's Aid Society are supposed to protect children and instead harming them. Any organization with THAT much power and zero accountability will grab reins and over wield their prerogatives. They need to be accountable for the harm they inflict. This organization should be about helping the family so that children are not abused or neglected. They need to start having much better reasons to apprehend children from their homes, and PROVING in court with actual evidence that abuse or neglect is happening. Parents deserve rights too, this organization should not be allowed to walk all over them.

    1 year ago
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  3. I completely agree! There is no excuse for why I turn on the news and am watching stories of how the elderly are being abused in retirement homes that's not right! Also, the Children's Aid need to be stopped regarding what they are doing as well. Currently, I know of a worker who conjures up lies, breaks family's apart, makes false allegations and much more. We can not sit here idle and continue to allow these organization to abuse the elderly and inflict pain on family's any longer. PUT A STOP TO THIS MADNESS PLEASE!!!

    1 year ago
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  4. This Bill is so desperately needed all of us families are asking for is someone to oversee the decisions of these privately run organizations who are ripping apart so many of us. If there is no abuse, the children should simply stay at home with their parents and family. They shouldn't be allowed to control the population with there broad excuses of what is neglect and abuse. Not every child is born into well off families and children also shouldn't be taken away because they have special needs. The government needs to take control of this and perhaps use the criminal court systems to determine neglect or abuse. The Childrens Aid Societies are legally kidnapping, abducting and trafficking our children without Just cause. They should also be accountable to follow court orders why are they above the law? When is the government going to step in? They all too often go against charter of rights and human rights? Heck criminals have more rights than us parents and our children, my reasoning for this comment is My children were apprehended four months after the last assault against me by my ex in 2008. He has been in and out of jail several times since then, abusing his new partners. He gets plea bargains early releases for time served and good behavior while My Children and I are still suffering. My Baby girl was two when taken, she is now seven. I would think this would be time served, wouldn't you? While she is still in care it is breaking all of our spirits affecting each and every one of us, emotionally and physically draining us her family , siblings and Myself. This is the domestic abuse all over again but 100 times worse because we have no means of protection to turn to. No legal help No police assistance No one to stand up and say "NO this is wrong", Please , please we need Ombudsman oversight. After all doesn't everyone have someone to answer to?

    1 year ago
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  5. 1. Over $900,000 was stolen from Ontario school Boards, not one school Board Official asked for receipts. When the thief was caught not one single school administrator was fired. Not one! The Whistleblower was hounded into silence. 2, Repeat sex offenders, a teacher who hang children upside down and shaking them, and pornographers are allowed to teach in Ontario Schools. How do you think the victims feel seeing the perpetrator stand in front of a class room ? 3. School boards operate in the interest of administrators not children. To attend school with pseudo special projects children are forced to take buses for literally thousands of hours in a life time attending special interest schools rather then local schools that have been closed down. 3. Complaints of abuse by school administrators and incompetence administration goes no where. A third party investigation is needed now!

    1 year ago
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  6. Im starting to see a pattern here... CORRUPT CORRUPT CORRUPTION... WE NEED OMBUDSMAN OVERSIGHT now.. lets give the children to the parents who dont actually deserve them and hell while you are at why dont we take away from the parents that deserve them.. does that make sense.. bring the CAS back to 80's where the workers were REAL social workers with heart.. there are few in my district who have their hands tied.. they work from their heart... we need more of those workers.. or we can just continue to fill the CAS quota.. read the many stories!!! that is all!!

    1 year ago
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  7. Everyone already has up the main points here ..we need our Government not to repeat the same crimes to the people of CANADA.The government should have learned a big lesson after the private schools but instead they allow private companies to run and do the same thing to our children and families,when I catch crimes in a case and can't charge these unregistered workers who are clearly breaking the laws for funding and bonuses,This also includes lawyers for legal aid ,Judges,Police..and specially wanna be DR.s who give drugs to a child ,with out consent of Parents....This Bill will help the real social workers the real people who came into this field of work ...not just a BSW ..family first before care

    1 year ago
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  8. Ombudsman oversight is long overdue for CAS. How can we allow a government funded corporation to have more power than anyone else in this province without any oversight. Also allowing the conflict of interest of the same corporation handling adoptions and child protection I do not feel is in the best interest of the public, nor our children. Not only do they need oversight NOW, why was never in place in the first place? With great power comes great corruption, and our children and families are paying the price how the current system is set up, like ANY corporation the CAS are in business for the money, no business operates unless they making a profit, sickening it is at the expense of our children and families. Also, only registered legally qualified social workers should be hired for this job, as mandated through Ontario laws, that current CAS employees are skirting on purpose to avoid accountability from the College. The way the current system is, unless you rich you have no hope fighting in court. It is a sad day when you can loose your child for what someone (who is not even legally qualified)THINKS might happen in the future, with NO evidence you have EVER done anything wrong. Apprehensions are used as a first resort in the current system, instead of a last resort, as it should be. apprehensions are emotionally and mentally damaging on both child and parents. The abuse within the foster homes is also out of control, often MUCH worse than what the child was experiencing in their family home, with many referring to is as a "pedophile ring", especially after the recent convictions on foster parents within the province.The CFSA also needs to be re-worded in my opinion, but oversight, at minimum, is a good start.

    1 year ago
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    1. you are 100% percent right I was trying a few years ago to get custody of a grand daughter, I was up front told CAS that I had slapped the back of her hand "ONCE" with 2 fingers becasue when she kissed me I could tell she had just smoked a cig she was 12. And another grand daughter ran out into the street right from their front door, I grabbed her after she was safe barely and spanked her butt and told to never ever run out the door onto the street again and she never did. But, the children's aid but on the papers for court that I believe in beating children. So the judge made me leave court room my granddaughter got sent up north some where ,where a male worker molested her. She finally got to run away and hide where ever living on the streets till she was legal age to come out in the open, and ended up in all sorts of the wild life.Real good job CAS !!

      10 months ago
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  9. Ombudsman Oversight of the MUSH sector is a must. Especially Children's Aid Societies and Health Care. The MUSH sector abuses their absolute power more often then most people think, because they can get away with it and they know it. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Ontario is the only province that has not allowed their Ombudsman to investigate the MUSH sector. The Liberal government is the only party that doesn't want Ombudsman Oversight. Well Liberals YOU will never have my vote until you become accountable! THE CAS and HOSPITALS need to reined in. Our tax dollars are going to the abuse of power the MUSH sector uses to abuse Ontarians.

    1 year ago
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  10. Many of the activists in the pro ombudsman oversight of CAS movement are paranoid delusional. Whenever a child gets apprehended by CAS, these parents complain to these activists that they did nothing wrong. Many of them don't want to believe they are abusers. For example, a mother posted that she allowed a child to die due to her negligence. She had drugs laying around the house. This mother got the rest of her kids seized by CAS. She was actually defended by some of these people commenting here. Many people complain on their pages that their children or grandchildren were seized by CAS at birth. Their advice to these people is to go threaten the health professionals who are just doing their jobs. These activists claim they care so much about the children. But they advise people to cause trouble for people who really care, the health professionals. This bill is not needed. There is already accountability in these sectors. These pro ombudsman activists are hoping that this benefits them.

    1 year ago
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    1. please inform us all what accountability you are referring to? I have not seen a post suggesting people threaten Dr.'s. Accountability is ALWAYS a good thing, unless you have something to hide. I am NOT paranoid delusional, and in my opinion your post is a person attack on anyone who has a different view then you, not once in my post did I attack anyone. I truly wonder how much you care about people when you make unfounded accusation accusing people of being "paranoid delusional" and accusing them of threatening Dr.'s. I for one have had a judge advise me to sue the CAS and reprimand them in a courtroom for their actions, threatening to throw workers in jail for perjury. I have also seen the CAS take the word of a convicted child molester over someone without a record, because it suited their interests. how are you benefitting from the current no accountability?

      1 year ago
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    2. If this bill does pass and nothing dramatic happens, they will turn on Andre Marin, ombudsman of Ontario. They will accuse him of being corrupt. Anybody that disagrees with them is either a CAS worker or a corrupt criminal. I fit in neither of those groups.

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    3. 1) you didn't answer my question of what accountability is already in place 2) making more accusations at people 3) glad you think you are able to predict the future 4) Andre Marin is the best Ombudsman Ontario has had, I for one have a lot of faith in, and respect for him. 5)I love how you categorize anyone who opposes your views, and you put them all into one category, claim everyone who disagrees with you is all in the same category, meanwhile you accuse them of being the ones to categorize people . You seem to be the pot calling the kettle black.

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    4. Mmmm just wondering if you would happen to be one of the few people who have been band from the group on Facebook because of the aggressive mannerisms that the individual has used. Your writing and mannerisms are pretty similar.

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    5. This comment is for SM99987, I am one of Neil's so call minions, and I want to let you know that you are talking out of your ass, you obviously have no clue what you are talking about so my advise to you is get some kind of education, get some info on what is actually happening before you make uneducated comments, just reading what you wrote really shows me on how ignorant you really are, I actually feel embarrass for you.

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    6. Good day to you, SM99987" Having just read an article in the Toronto news, written by Mr. Marin, I wonder which avenue of accountability you would prefer parents that have had their children apprehended by CAS to take?

      "The problem lies in the details of the various oversight mechanisms cited by Broten. She named the family courts, the auditor general, the office of the chief coroner, the pediatric death review committee, and the Child and Family Services Review Board.

      Consider those first four. The courts are an adversarial and usually costly option. The auditor general follows the money. And the coroner and pediatric death review committee? To suggest these as oversight options is chilling — after all, they cannot become involved until after a child is dead."

      Just these facts alone conjure a terrifying image in my own mind. I admit that I am, in fact, one of those "minions" and would like to inform you, that I am far from uneducated or paranoid delusional, but thank you for assuming because we know what that make you. The fact is that yes, the "professionals" that are assisting CAS also need to be held accountable for their actions. How can any rational person justify taking a new born infant from the Mothers arms when she hasn't even had the chance to prove whether she can parent or not?

      1 year ago
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  11. Why are we the only province with no accountabilty in the Mush sector ? Our children are been traumaized and abuse , our elderly are being abuse and over medicated and traumaized. But yet the Liberal party is refusing accountailty in these area's of concern ? What are you hiding from the public ? Why have you given a private company this much control over peoples lives and families, such as CAS ? The government is allowing the abuse to continue by not bringing in accountabilty in these area's. I will not vote for the Liberal's as long as we have no accountablity in these area's.You are allowing these private groups to ttraumaize the families. Which I think is crimanal and corrupt.

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  12. SM99987 If you feel that there is no problems with the MUSH sector than you should have no problem with Ombudsman Oversight, because if there are no problems then the Ombudsman will back you up....RIGHT??????

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  13. Sounds like SM99987 has something to hide!!!!

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  14. Please support oversight of the entire MUSH!

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  15. Ontario's school boards desperately need the oversight that could be provided by an Ombudsman with powers over the "MUSH" sector. Many boards are wasting our tax dollars by closing good small neighbourhood schools in favour of busing kids to large, big-box education factories that don't save money and yield inferior outcomes for students. For more details go to http://savelocalschools.com/?page_id=390

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  16. Ombudsman Oversight of Hospitals, Long-Term Care and Children’s Aid Societies is long overdue! The Minister of Health, Deb Matthews, clearly states that our healthcare institutions are: “ independent corporations 
accountable only to their own internal boards of directors”. This critical gap in oversight is directly responsible for the gross mismanagement of our healthcare dollars, horrific accounts of abuse and untimely deaths of patients and children. How can this government believe that our public healthcare system and Children’s Aid Societies, should remain immune from accountability! The people of Ontario want and deserve transparency, accountability and oversight of our publicly funded institutions. No oversight will always breed abuse! We cannot continue to allow the “offender" to regulate itself! It is time to let the Ombudsman in!

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  17. Very much to support oversight of the entire MUSH!!!Here is the evidence of CAS ABUSE OF POWER!!! Please read the story and listen to the radio show. This is Canada, we came here to enjoy the rights and freedoms!! thanks!

    https://soundcloud.com/rhardock/evidence-of-cas-abuse-of-power

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  18. I am living testimony that the nursing home my mom was in killed her...Want the story....she was full of poison and they did nothing....The police ya and I have stories on that too....OMBUDSMAN NEEDS TO RULE !!!!!!!!

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  19. The entire MUSH sector in Ontario needs Ombudsman Oversight and ASAP.( which means as soon as possible for those who do not understand)Why is it that Ontario is the only province not to have oversight? What does Ontario have to hide? Why are the Liberals so against Ombudsman oversight?

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  20. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. We need checks and balances in Ontario. I will not vote Liberal (and I have been a Liberal voter for the most part in the past) until the party changes their position on this issue. I will also advocate for the NDP party in order to see Ombudsman oversight come to pass in our province.

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  21. Children's Aid Society takes children from good people and leaves children with very bad parents,they do not listen to abuse reports and try to hide these situations from the public and the courts, they interfere with custody hearings, have the judges and lawyers running in circles for them to come out with the solutions that only help the Aid. Families are being destroyed by these actions and trust in the system is rotting.

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  22. I do not deny there are people out there who abuse the system. There are abusers and nothing is done...but there are just as many who have done nothing wrong, and are dragged through court. I am one of those people. My step children were placed in my care, I was threatened with foster care, if I did not go through the courts. I was forced to sell my house, was told where my kids could and could not go to school in the end they bankrupted me. None of it was right. I did not have anyone to turn to. This bill needs to pass, so this does not happen anymore. If we as a people are held accountable for our actions, why not the MUSH sector?

    1 year ago
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  23. Neil Haskett makes some good points the more people who complain, petitions and asked for changes the better it will be, like the old saying goes united we stand divided we fall, but sm99987 also made some good points even though he was rude about it, the Government doesn't need to hear about conspiracy and kidnapping, if you want results you have to be smart about what you are doing, the Government needs to realize that CAS has gotten mad with power and yes sometimes they do take children without proper cause because they know they can and no one can or will stop them, CAS does force families to go to court and spend money they don't have and most of the time CAS has a very weak case but again they know they can do this because they have the funding which comes from our Government which comes from our tax dollars so they don't care. Our Government needs to send a message to all these agencies that they are not above the law and that they are here to serve the public to make lives easier not harder, once these agencies gets this message then they will start to think twice before over looking people's rights and destroying lives, the best way to do this is to change the rules and to start holding these workers accountable for their actions.

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  24. Such as Quebec subjected over 100,000 Duplesiss orphans to unauthorized CIA covert MK-ULTRA LSD and lobotomy research during the 50's, we have a similar problem here in Ontario, where we have children who suffer epilepsy,being subjected to unauthorized lobotomy and brain implant experimentation. Such research which correlates with Manchurian Candidate developmental research. Neurosurgeon Harold Joseph Hoffman is noted for having 15,741 children under his care between 1964-1998. It would be fair to suggest that anywhere between 10% to 1/3,have been subjected to unauthorized non-therapeutic surgical research. (1500-5000 children)

    While this criminal assault and battery is being neglected and concealed by the Ontario College of Physicians and Surgeons, Ontario Health professions Board,Toronto police, OPP, RCMP,and CSIS, I have a HSC Patient Advocate informing me of a "on-going problem". I recall back in 1980,that the Ombudsman could not address this medical child abuse,when having no jurisdiction. Most repugnant,that this lack of over-sight has costs so many lives. Seems MK-ULTRA is alive and well, when our Ombudsman is handcuffed by our government. thewhyfiles.net/mkultra4.htm#update

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  25. we definately need ombudsman oversight of the entire mush sector. the system we currently have does NOT work. only true INDEPENDANT oversight with actual power to take action against the abuse taking place within the systems will make Ontario better then what it is today. corruption is running rampid and it is because the mush sector knows they are only accountable to themself and nobody has any power to stop them.

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  26. I've had encounter with both the Children's Aid Society and Ontario School Boards. I have my three grandchildren living with me on a kinship order and I have found CAS to be a very questionable organization. As for the school boards they are even worst. They don't even care if a child goes to school. My spouse and I fought for 2 years for his son that is living with an alcoholic mother to be made go to school. We were told that if the kid doesn't want to go to school there was nothing they could do about it, even though they have Learning Till 18 act in place they refuse to use it. How much was spent on putting in that useless bill?? His son was only 14 when we started and CAS said they couldn't make a kid go to school either. Now he is 16 and living in a hotel room with his mother that got kicked out of low income housing in Parry Sound. Every official in the school sector and the CAS said there was nothing they can do about him not going to school, but the school is still getting funding for him. The same thing happened with his oldest son too. So both these organization have left bad tastes in our mouths and grave disappointments in government. There definitely needs and must be someone overlooking these organizations. They are playing God in others lives and have way too much power given to them and they are the biggest abusers we have ever witnessed in our lifetime.

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  27. I am very disappointed in the Liberals not supporting Ombudsman oversight of the entire mush sector. The current system does not work the way it is and there is nobody to "right" the wrong doings of a corrupt system and there workers. I am not saying they are all corrupt but there are a lot of wrongs happening with no accountability to the people committing these offenses. I will not be supporting anything to do with the liberals until they start supporting the best interest of children and families in Ontario, I will be sure to tell every one that the liberals are against change that affects so many people.

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  28. A new immigrant to Canada, from a communist country,China, said she was so happy to live in a free and democratic society like Canada. She said she is so happy to feel safe in Canada.

    In China officials can come to a home and with no proof or evidence of any type of wrong doing and remove a family member from the home. The family is not told why their relative has been taken. The family is not told where their relative is. Months or years later the family finds out where the relative is. Sometimes the relative is allowed to go home but this relative must be on best behaviour and the state (Chinese officials) monitor the family to make sure the family is acting how they (the officials) want.

    This new immigrant to Canada, left home and family in China to come to our country which prides itself on democracy and fairness.

    When this new immigrant learned that due to lack of oversight for CAS policies and procedures, Children of Ontario from good loving Non abusive families can be taken from their homes, very similar to the Chinese communist practices, it was shocking

    In a so called free and democratic society, sanctioned by the government of Ontario Canada, organizations are allowed to take children from their families for as little as a messy home (with no abuse or neglect of the child.) At least the Chinese communist government doesn't take

    Without oversight for CAS our province is allowing a massive injustice to occur and emotionally harming the children we are supposed to cherish and protect

    CAS oversight through the ombudsman's office will prove Canada is truly the democracy it says it is

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    1. I came from China, and I know how dirty and dark Chinese government. I came here to enjoy Canada's FREEDOMS AND RIGHS, but like you said: I was very shocking and very disappointed that actually Canada government is the same as Chinese government- dirty and dark!! No family is really safe if this dirty CAS without any ombudsman oversight. they can do whatever they want because they know they have that power and nobody can really stop them. they have no love and no soul to our children in front of money, make me understand there is no real freedoms and rights in any country, there is no SAFE in any country!! our children are our life, as a Mom, I will use my life to protect them.

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  29. As a person who has dealt with the CAS I must say that there is a great need for oversight and transparency from this establishment.

    Let the Ombudsmen in.

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  30. We need to do better. The situation in Ontario when it comes to CAS oversight is appalling. Kids who are in the system have made it known that there need to be reforms to foster care. Inquests like that of Jeffrey Baldwin remind us we need to do better. The same government that has prided itself on the improved developments in education - allows the children's aid societies to run themselves and go unchecked. The checks and balances are not there. If a family is at odds with the CAS, there is no voice for their concerns other than an internal review process, CFRSB (which can only rule on procedural issues) and costly court challenges. The latest insult has been the lack of committee hearings for the bill on ombudsman oversight of CAS. People are lined up ready to talk to government about their experiences. We can do better. I have been a lifelong Liberal supporter. I am encouraging all of my family and friends to walk away from the Liberal party.

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  31. Oversight is definitely needed. Coming home from school every night, waiting till 9 o'clock so I could call my friend to make sure she was alright because the only time she was allowed out of the locked, iron bar clad windows of the basement with only a bare mattress for company was when my sister or I called and stated it was "For her well-being". You see, cas's doctors had diagnosed her with a disorder she never had and force fed her medication. Because she refused the medication,that became her living conditions. At 16, walking to the food bank with two brothers in order to get them food because their foster parent up and left. Cas allowed the foster parent to keep receiving money for them regardless of no longer caring for them. Also at 16 getting a call from a 9 and 12 year old in tears because they didn't know where their mother had been for the last two weeks and they hadn't eaten in days. Their sister; a close friend of mine and I went and brought them food and found the mother. They had been left for their unborn, adoptable sister." You can keep the children you have, if you give us this one". They left those children in those conditions, to starve and wither away at the potential $ of a new born adoption. There is no word in any language to describe the evils of these organizations or the heart break I've felt for others due to them.

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    1. I truly believe you. Years ago when they removed my 10 and 12 yr old, they put my son in a basement in the boiler room with only a mattress, I took a picture of this when I had the chance. my daughter had a room upstairs, but when she cut her wrists and the foster mother was at work, she would not go home to check her due to thinking it was a hoax. they told me that if I went there I would be arrested. since then I have them home and their 26 and 28., it was a nightmare, but at the end of the time in care, the foster mom made a mistake and came to pick up my kids and she was clearly drinking. I kept them and told her to call the police but of course she didnt, and my lawyer faxed them the next day, I was able to keep them, but had to drive them to and from school a 40 min trip one way, but it was worth it, so I know all about shitty conditions they put our kids in when their home is fine, even if we needed some work, they dont help they just want to take. its not productive.

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  32. I was raised in CAS, and I now live with PTSD. There is no oversight, there is no justice for me, nor for any of the children that I knew who are living below the poverty line as adults. Please, I beg you, give us a chance at justice!

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  33. I was once in a CAS office (not on children related matter), and what I saw broke my heart. A 5 year old boy had just been declared a ward of the society. The mother who was present with her child was told to leave (in no uncertain terms) and had to go, leaving her son crying pityfully "mommy, mommy, don't leave me". The little boy would not stop crying. I told the CAS case worker: "are'nt you at least going to try to comfort this kid?". The answer was:"Ah he he'll get used to it - it's not the end of the world." But for this little boy, it was the end of the world, and that a CAS case worker would have such a cold heart was unbelievable. Just too often, CAS workers lack empathy and what is more dangerous, lack concern for the children well-being. This is not what the CAS was created for.

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  34. my case worker has admitted to lying and making threats that my son wont be returning to me or our family. Where he is placed he is in more danger or mental and physical abuse his baby sitter abuses her day care kids and when I brought that up I get told its ok shes a foster mom and that its not any of my business. your damn right its my business when its my son that could be hurt we need the oversight what is the liberals afraid of? lol they say I cant protect my baby really I wasn't even given the chance and when they took him they waited until I was gone out to do it. I cant believe how pig headed and fascist this country is. its been proven that in many cases involving cas the kids would have been better off with their bio parnets where they wouldn't be raped and starved the person who has care of my son is just doing it for money and is abusive but they don't look into that. why is Ontario stalling with this?

    1 year ago
    6 Agreed
    0 Disagreed
  35. my name is stef and my mom is nana-dom-lie I wanted to leave a message saying that neil haskett and his group is not worth our time he made something I said into the worst thing ever his movement is cruel and unfair and unjust we should be focusing on working together and ignoring neil and his friends and us as a community should band together and get the ombudsman to help us I have a group on facebook one that does not judge I don't have minions and if anyone is interested in making changes please join its called movement against childrens aid society

    1 year ago
    2 Agreed
    3 Disagreed
    1. We stand by our decision that in some cases there is a need for child protection and we believe in making it perfect. Unlike the current system, we do not believe in collateral damage or that bad parents should be granted carte blanc.. BTW, you were judged on your death threats against my family Stef, Thunder Bay police were involved and because we understand how this causes mental illness in many parents, I asked the police not lay charges so you could get real help.

      11 months ago
      3 Agreed
      0 Disagreed
  36. Locally, Jeff Leal says we fixed CAS issues in Peterborough. this is so seriously wrong. There is no accountability to CAS non registered front line workers(not registered social workers). Police complaints are ignored by limited police proceedures, who pass the victim on as MHA,,,who in turn get screwed by the medical profession in the hospitals...a viscious cycle of discrediting victims and ignoring the lack of accountability in these agencies... Ombudsman oversight is badly needed.

    11 months ago
    5 Agreed
    0 Disagreed
  37. Desperately needed!

    10 months ago
    2 Agreed
    0 Disagreed
  38. this vote needs to go throw for our kids.

    10 months ago
    0 Agreed
    0 Disagreed
  39. For years CAS has been walking in on families with lies about people just so they can make a profit by taking children. We teach our children about strangers all the time by cas taking the children they have introduce them to strangers an put them in danger...many have been killed,sexually assaulted,etc...Also when the children you have taken from the families have children you take their children...this just keeps going down the line...Plus if a young mother has a child her 1st the cas is right at the hospital to snatch the baby away...WHY cause she's a young mom nothing else...It's time it STOPS..Just like Rob Ford you the cas should be stripped of your powers...Please we need the Oversight for the cas to be held accountable for their actions

    10 months ago
    2 Agreed
    0 Disagreed
  40. My daughter suffered greatly while in foster care. I demand oversite. I demand someone to watch over these agencies to make sure they are really protecting these children. My daughter has been home for just over 13 months now, and we are still trying to rebuild our lives after everything they did to her and put us both through. God bless the children and families that the child family services are destroying. (May I add that my daughter was put in a abusive (in many ways)foster home. There are records of the abuse and records stating not to tell me, because of what I would do. My child left my home and lived in hell. I wasn't the best and admit my faults, but she left a not bad situation for a horrid one. They were supposed to protect her, not hurt her. I could do nothing ... I had no one to turn to. Please help our children. Im begging you to save others like my daughter, because without the accountability no one else can. Thank you.

    10 months ago
    2 Agreed
    0 Disagreed
  41. this stuff with cas needs to come to an end they take kids from good parents i am a mother of 3 my 2 girls 5 and 4 are in temporary care with their father for 6 months i have been fighting with them since march because a big tragedy happened to our family in feb on the 26th of feb my 2 year old son passed away he was a sick baby when he was born he had cardiac problems and he had a mid case of cerebal palsy i had all sorts of help with him and organizations come to my house to help work with him well the one day i went out to do my shopping for the family i came home told his father to get him out of bed cause he was napping he went upstairs and my son wasn't really breathing he was weak looked like he had a seizure and we didn't even know since that horrific day we have been under investigation the autopsy has been done they can not find a cause of death they thought it was rough play but it wasn't i was shocked to ever hear they would think i would do such a thing they asked me to take a polygraph to prove i had nothing to do with my sons dearth and i did guess what i passed but apparently that don't matter to CAS to this day i only get to see my kids once a week for 2 hours at a time while being supervised it is horrific my daughters need me i am their mother i did everything for them my oldest daughter asks me all the time mommy why can't you come see us more and i say cause our worker won't let me so far this year i have missed easter with my children i have missed thanksgiving i have missed halloween and now i may miss their birthdays and christmas my life this year has been so horrible i lost my son and now i feel i am loosing my girls. my daughters were not even aloud to go to my sons funeral which is their own brother whom they loved, there is defiantly something wrong with that picture. i to this day do not understand why i have to have supervised visits with my children i understand my sons investigation is not over yet as it should be soon its been almost a year CAS says i am great with my kids the father and i co- parent great we get along we are a happy family i do everything for my girls they need me back it is hurting them and they need their mom. i have nothing else to say as this is my story Cas is asking for another temporary 6 months which i am refusing cause there is no need for it . i hope this can all end soon cause i don't know how much more of it i can take. thanks for reading my story

    10 months ago
    0 Agreed
    0 Disagreed

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